tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post3947041947710756924..comments2024-03-15T09:29:02.240-04:00Comments on Recollections of a Vagabonde: Recollection: The Liberation of Paris in August 1944 (part 3)Vagabondehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10774109692564954568noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-49090086685803831492015-02-19T00:55:42.952-05:002015-02-19T00:55:42.952-05:00Thank you very much for your article ! I recently ...Thank you very much for your article ! I recently went to the American History Museum in D.C. and I really was disappointed by the way they handled the french part of the war. Not a word about the French in the Allies Army or about the resistance. I didn't no either about Cholitz, interessant to know !Il est 20h à LAhttp://ilest20hapasadena.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-52139849751063757522015-02-10T06:22:05.329-05:002015-02-10T06:22:05.329-05:00I am struck by the parallels between Paris and War...I am struck by the parallels between Paris and Warsaw - uprisings in the same month, different outcomes of course.<br />I am planning to write a children's novel set in France and this will help a lot - thank you.Nick Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041965664922449489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-52893124441465927282014-10-04T02:51:04.467-04:002014-10-04T02:51:04.467-04:00I'm so amazed by all this. There's so muc...I'm so amazed by all this. There's so much I truly had no idea about.Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461569436322815787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-15118106715258519012014-09-25T00:24:06.655-04:002014-09-25T00:24:06.655-04:00when will you be publishing your book? Such remar...when will you be publishing your book? Such remarkable detail in this post.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720030744345215307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-91696373702076295362014-09-24T07:20:31.633-04:002014-09-24T07:20:31.633-04:00How interesting to read the history from someone m...How interesting to read the history from someone much closer to it than I am. When I walk around my second home of Dijon I see plaques on walls dedicated to people who fought in the resistance. It's hard to imagine any subterfuge happened in those quiet streets.Julie Farrarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810771028650707072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-25554139515957129922014-09-20T07:17:57.366-04:002014-09-20T07:17:57.366-04:00Hi Vagabonde .. horrifying to know von Cholitz'...Hi Vagabonde .. horrifying to know von Cholitz's actions weren't ever realised and he's been treated with respect - I hope that fact gets corrected.<br /><br />The Resistance must have helped beyond belief in the War .. and interesting to read about the German Resistance wanting to get to Hitler and kill him.<br /><br />People are cruel and don't think - shows how shallow those people are, who have the need to post such comments. I ignore them .. <br /><br />Thanks for writing this history for us - especially with your connections to the city ... <br /><br />I did hear that Poles are today trying to trace their heritage to see if there are any Jewish relations in their family trees - as there is now a thriving Jewish centre in Krakow - whereas the Germans and then the Soviets tried to wipe them off the earth - nearly succeeding.<br /><br />Thank goodness for educated people who can give us a different view of life in those days .. there's always propaganda going on ... <br /><br />It's being a pleasure to read these .. HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-2905592222972893602014-09-15T22:08:14.154-04:002014-09-15T22:08:14.154-04:00VB, you've written a few chapters of a book wi...VB, you've written a few chapters of a book with these posts! Amazing work you've done here. You should seriously thinking about publishing a memoir or the history of Paris, or whatever... You're one detailed historian and archivist. As for WWII Europe, what i'm most amazed about is the pre-war preparation in preserving the artworks and the post-war reconstruction of even the most damaged of cities. Looking at Paris or other European cities today, one can hardly imagine that it has arisen from ashes like a rebirth. Artihttp://rippleeffects.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-12758314265698772882014-09-13T21:48:22.263-04:002014-09-13T21:48:22.263-04:00This again is a very interesting post, Vagabonde. ...This again is a very interesting post, Vagabonde. As a "child of the 60s" and a German this part of history is always hurting and very ashaming. <br />However, I have one or two things to say. Klaus Barbie was chief of the local Gestapo in Lyon, not the chief of the Gestapo in general. And I also read some mentioning of the resistant movement in France and other occupied countries - I think not many people know that there was also a resistant movement in Nazi Germany, the most famous one probably the men in the Kreisauer Kreis and the students of the Weisse Rose. All of them paid their commitment with their lives. It's a least a little bit of good of that time in my country that we will always remember. Carola Bartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05536486322412234854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-82414823513498426782014-09-13T18:43:09.595-04:002014-09-13T18:43:09.595-04:00º° º°。☆ ★彡
Hello et MERCI pour cette publication ...º° º°。☆ ★彡<br /><br />Hello et MERCI pour cette publication historique et importante chère vagabonde ! C'est très intéressant et j'aime parcourir ce post.<br /><br />Merci aussi pour ta gentille visite sur mon petit blog. <br />C'est chouette de prendre soin de vos trois petits enfants et de passer de bons moments avec eux !!!! EXTRA ! ... <br /><br />GROS BISOUS D'ASIE vers Tennessee !<br />Bonne continuation chère Vagabonde !!! ✿✿º°。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-2893957978811309422014-09-13T08:18:20.469-04:002014-09-13T08:18:20.469-04:00I love your combination of actual childhood memori...I love your combination of actual childhood memories with your deep scholarship on the actual history of the Liberation. Mae Travelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13328946930935633113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-32675477983035433412014-09-13T05:06:59.584-04:002014-09-13T05:06:59.584-04:00Merci Vagabonde d'apporter la vérité sur la li...Merci Vagabonde d'apporter la vérité sur la libération de Paris.<br />Merci aux parisiens et soldat français, résistants d'avoir oeuvrer pour notre belle capitale.<br />Le défilé de l'armée américaine le du 29.08 sur les Champs pourrait être considérer comme une imposture mais il faut bien se souvenir qu'elle est quand même venue à notre aide et à celle de l'Europe.<br />Effectivement il paît que le jour du défilé du 26 il y a eu des tirs mais ma Mémé et ma Mère n'ont jamais su non plus qui et pourquoi.<br />Je comprends ta réaction sur, un peu comme moi, les "gènes" qui nous habitent concernant Paris et tu as raison Paris n'est pas que la haute couture et tout le reste, Paris c'est Paris, Reine du monde.<br />Merci pour ce grand moment d'histoire et toutes ces illustrations. Magnifique publication !<br />Bisesclaudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07356955828590617751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-88778752512419396272014-09-12T20:33:40.280-04:002014-09-12T20:33:40.280-04:00Dear Vagabonde, I am one of your many readers who ...Dear Vagabonde, I am one of your many readers who applaud you for this history lesson that is based in actual memory and is written with a deep love and respect for the French people and their valiant resistance that led to the downfall of that "butcher" and to the liberation of Paris. <br /><br />I love history, but I want to know the truth of it, not the myths or fables or the recollections written by the winners who have the most media resources. I find myself ashamed as General Eisenhower and of all those who have written slurs about the French people. Thank you for setting history straight. I so look forward to #4 of this series. Peace.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00612299013780771262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-47891137752894986342014-09-12T13:27:26.501-04:002014-09-12T13:27:26.501-04:00Merci de toutes ces informations. Je suis heureuse...Merci de toutes ces informations. Je suis heureuse que le Gen. von Choltitz ne pouvait pas détruire Paris!<br />Bon fin de la semaine!<br />Wil, ABCW TeamReader Wilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06384603525251159272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-81859696116976420792014-09-12T09:18:56.968-04:002014-09-12T09:18:56.968-04:00Un message qui sort des clichés sur la France en g...Un message qui sort des clichés sur la France en général et Paris en particuliers.... Je croyais moi-aussi que Paris avait été sauvé de la destruction volontairement grâce à un acte de désobéissance. Quant on se souvent de ce qui s'est passé en Allemagne, la destruction de Dresde en particuliers, heureusement que la cathédrale de Chartres, la belle façade sur Seine de Paris ont été épargnées....<br />Ah les Champs Elysées envahis par la foule des parisiens ! J'imagine l'élan extraordinaire à la libération !<br />Il m'est arrivé d'y aller avec les enfants pour le passage d'une année à l'autre... Ou lors de la manifestation "Nature Capitale" en mai 2010...<br /><br />http://cergipontin.blogspot.fr/2010/05/champs-elysees-paris-8eme-la-nature-la.htmlCergiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14623905868861239570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-33432287003255120652014-09-12T03:01:14.867-04:002014-09-12T03:01:14.867-04:00I just saw your comment on Peter's blog (Paris...I just saw your comment on Peter's blog (Paris) and wanted to say that yes I read carefully each one of your last posts with great attention to all these details.Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-27208951000669609232014-09-12T00:31:21.041-04:002014-09-12T00:31:21.041-04:00Merci pour les informations.Merci pour les informations.Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-56184492891775444592014-09-12T00:26:01.840-04:002014-09-12T00:26:01.840-04:00P.S.
Je le crois d'autant plus aisément pour &...P.S.<br />Je le crois d'autant plus aisément pour "Diplomatie" que, l'histoire se répétant, les nouvelles que nous lisons au jour le jours sur les événements actuels, même à nos portes, sont si déformées, qu'il nous faut mener notre propre investigation pour comprendre à peu près, ce qui se passe.<br />Pour "Lincoln" j'avais regretté de ne pas en avoir su plus avant d'aller voir le film.Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-84607600942355703982014-09-11T21:50:48.237-04:002014-09-11T21:50:48.237-04:00What a treasure trove of information in these thre...What a treasure trove of information in these three posts! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your memories and the history of this time!Vicki Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08114677510459055768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-4495133472560327172014-09-11T08:46:04.153-04:002014-09-11T08:46:04.153-04:00Ginnie - Yes, unfortunately many people, even Pari...Ginnie - Yes, unfortunately many people, even Parisians, believe that von Choltitz saved Paris because he loved the city. It is false. A French historian said, as late as August 25, 2014, that “For many who know the story of the uprising well, this account is absolute self-serving fantasy.<br />“He portrays himself as the saviour of the city,” Lionel Dardenne, from the Museum of Order of the Liberation, which honours resistance fighters, told The Local. “But the truth is he couldn’t have destroyed it.” See http://www.thelocal.fr/20140825/nazi-general-didnt-save-paris-expert Back in 2003 after I read the letter that President Bush introduced as proof that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger I knew it was a false – in French it had grammatical errors and the supposed Niger government official “foreign affairs minister” had been out of office since 1989 – but people believed it too! My Americans friends were upset when I told them I was sure it was a fake letter …Thanks for your comment.<br />Vagabondehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774109692564954568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-18689684013473975212014-09-11T03:01:35.172-04:002014-09-11T03:01:35.172-04:00Wouldn't we all be quite amazed if ever we rea...Wouldn't we all be quite amazed if ever we read the TRUE histories of all the wars from beginning to end throughout all time! <br /><br />Astrid often tells me about certain places here in Holland that were shot "for a lark" by the German planes after the war as they were leaving. It makes me sick. <br /><br />No one wins with war!<br /><br />I was wondering how Gen. von Choltitz dies, so I Googled and found this: "Dietrich von Choltitz died in November 1966 from a longstanding war illness in the city hospital of Baden-Baden. He was buried at the city cemetery of Baden-Baden in the presence of high-ranking French officers, including colonels Wagner (Military Commander of Baden-Baden), de Ravinel and Omézon.[6] Baden-Baden was the post-World War II French headquarters in Germany." Ginnie Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014434422568561157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-34658105251416038262014-09-10T04:37:32.797-04:002014-09-10T04:37:32.797-04:00Une suite des plus interessante.
Le film "Dip...<br />Une suite des plus interessante.<br><br />Le film <a href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/cinema/2013/08/27/03002-20130827ARTFIG00187-un-tournage-tout-en-diplomatie.php" rel="nofollow">"Diplomatie"</a> devrait vous interesser.Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-78277456495304352482014-09-09T23:54:53.041-04:002014-09-09T23:54:53.041-04:00Hi Vagabonde. It's very enjoyable reading thes...Hi Vagabonde. It's very enjoyable reading these historic posts peppered with images. When I'm in France, Paris especially, I love how the French are so connected to their past and how they name Metro stations, streets etc after famous war heroes, philosophers etc. Vive la France!Denise Covey https://www.blogger.com/profile/07106490051555233439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-1925154610802686142014-09-09T21:23:30.849-04:002014-09-09T21:23:30.849-04:00I read the previous post and this one, and once ag...I read the previous post and this one, and once again, I am so impressed with your amazing recall and research, PLUS you setting a number of records straight. As to the a--holes who comment on Everything and don't know what the hell they are talking about---It is the scourge of the Internet! My Lord, there are a lot of angry people out there who show their ignorance about almost everything! <br /><br />For whatever reason, I have always known the Resistance played such an important part of saving France and Paris...without the Resistance God knows what would have happened. I also know, The U.S. likes to rewrite History about almost everything---and that is shameful because there were so very many Americans who lost their lives in WW2 in Europe and especially on D-Day. In a way, it insults their memory by needing to take credit where it was NOT due.....I cannot imagine how hard it must have been to live in Paris when the Nazi's were there---and how frightening, too. Your parents were so brave---you must be so proud of them and their part in helping the Resistance. The story about the ALL WHITE Army only----That sickened me no end. This country's Racism then and now--STILL----is horrific and shameful. <br />Thank you dear Vagabonde for your passion. You should turn all of your research and your experiences into a book! That would be really fantastic! OldLady Of The Hillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02458879772193114892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-60518548450658193332014-09-09T20:16:15.147-04:002014-09-09T20:16:15.147-04:00Ma chère Vagabonde, félicitations for the amazing ...Ma chère Vagabonde, félicitations for the amazing research you have accomplished to write yet another fascinating story about the Liberation of Paris. I am glad you set the record straight about war criminal Von Choltitz. I am glad, as well, you set the record straight about the role civilians - and the FFI troops - played in the liberation of our beloved Paris. As for internet trolls and their uneducated comments, I have learned to ignore them but will be sure to send them your way when I next see another allusion to the "cheese-eating surrendering monkeys." = Hats off to you. Excellent work. Your fellow blogger, Veronique (French Girl in Seattle) French Girl in Seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14347995356689205203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8796960161183320830.post-10465756135985288762014-09-09T17:47:36.472-04:002014-09-09T17:47:36.472-04:00David - Thanks for coming to my blog. I certainl...David - Thanks for coming to my blog. I certainly agree with you that without the Allies Europe would not be what it is today and we are all thankful for their help and I know how hard it was for you with your father making such a sacrifice. I just wished that the US post office had selected a place that the US liberated, rather than Paris that they did not – I would not get the usual refrain that Paris was not liberated by the Parisians – and this picture has a lot to do with it. I wonder why the post office did not get an accurate picture of somewhere they liberated, as there were thousands of them. Know that I certainly feel very thankful for the US liberation of all the countries in Europe.Vagabondehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774109692564954568noreply@blogger.com